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Divorce is scary. It can be even more so when the person you are divorcing has a Cluster B personality disorder like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This podcast will host experts from varied backgrounds to offer their insight and advice to help guide you through Divorcing a Narcissist.
Divorce is scary. It can be even more so when the person you are divorcing has a Cluster B personality disorder like Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This podcast will host experts from varied backgrounds to offer their insight and advice to help guide you through Divorcing a Narcissist.
Episodes

Thursday Feb 26, 2026
š Queen of Boundaries: How to Stop Playing Nice with a Narcissist
Thursday Feb 26, 2026
Thursday Feb 26, 2026
In this episode, I sit down with Dana Skaggs, licensed psychological examiner and known as the Queen of Boundaries, to unpack why boundary dysfunction is often at the root of anxiety, burnout, and emotional exhaustion.
We talk about:
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Why saying ānoā can trigger panic
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How narcissistic dynamics train you to over-function and keep the peace
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The connection between trauma and weak or collapsing boundaries
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Practical ways to set and defend boundaries during divorce
Dana also shares her personal experience navigating a toxic parent relationship and how learning to hold boundaries changed her life.
If youāre tired of being pulled in every direction and ready to reclaim your peace, this conversation will show you where to start.
**DISCLAIMER:**Ā Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Thursday Feb 19, 2026
High Conflict, High Stakes: Stop Losing Ground in Family Court
Thursday Feb 19, 2026
Thursday Feb 19, 2026
High-conflict divorce isnāt just emotionally exhausting. Itās legally strategic.
In this episode, I sit down with seasoned family law attorney John Schorsch to unpack a hard truth: many people unintentionally damage their own case without realizing it.
We talk about the common ways parents sabotage themselves in custody battles, why overexplaining and reacting emotionally backfires, and what courts actually care about versus what clients think matters. We also dig into why labels like ānarcissistā rarely help, how communication mistakes resurface later, and what ācontrolling the narrativeā truly means in practice.
If youāre navigating a high-conflict ex, legal threats, or long custody battles, this episode will help you shift from reactive behavior to strategic decision-making.
Because in family court, winning isnāt loud.
Itās disciplined. And sometimes, the smartest move is saying less.
**DISCLAIMER:**Ā Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Tuesday Jan 27, 2026
Leaving Crazy Town: Vickyās Guide to Court, Recovery, and Peace
Tuesday Jan 27, 2026
Tuesday Jan 27, 2026
What does it take to truly win when youāre divorcing a narcissist? In this powerful episode of Out of Crazy Town, I sit down with Vicky Edwardsāmy longtime client and now dear friendāwho went through one of the most intense divorce and custody battles Iāve witnessed. Vicky opens up about what really matters in family court, how to document everything, and the emotional toll of fighting someone who thrives on chaos. But more importantly, she shares how she reclaimed her peace, rebuilt her life, and found freedom on the other side of the madness. If youāre in the middle of your own high-conflict divorce, custody fight, or trying to break free from a toxic, narcissistic relationship⦠this episode is your guide.
⨠Topics We Cover:
What the court actually looks at in custody cases
- The doās and donāts of documenting abuse and conflict
- How to protect your peace during legal warfare
- The mindset shift that helps you move forward
- Why your freedom is the real win
š Subscribe for more real, raw conversations that help you navigate life after narcissistic abuseāand take your power back.
**DISCLAIMER:**Ā Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
āļø The Single Mom Attorney: Redefining Family Law with Gianni Avalos
Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
Tuesday Nov 11, 2025
In this episode, Jackie talks with Gianni Avalos, better known online as The Single Mom Attorneyāa fierce Texas family law advocate whoās changing how single mothers experience the legal system.
Gianniās journey from studying for the bar exam with a newborn to running a powerhouse firm built on compassion and advocacy is nothing short of inspiring. Together, Jackie and Gianni dive into what really happens inside the family court system, how mothers can protect themselves through knowledge, and why prioritizing a childās well-being is the ultimate win in high-conflict co-parenting.
This episode is for every woman standing her ground in the courtroom and in lifeāproof that resilience and truth are stronger than intimidation and fear.
Avalos Family Trial Attorneys Website
**DISCLAIMER:**Ā Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Thursday Oct 16, 2025
šµ The Money, The Me$$ and the Makeover: Two Women Rewriting the Rules of Divorce
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Thursday Oct 16, 2025
Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew are shaking up the divorce industry with My Divorce Solutionāa groundbreaking process that makes divorce more equitable, cost-effective, and drama-free. Catherine, a financial planner turned advocate, and Karen, a seasoned legal liaison, share wild stories from the trenches, hard-won wisdom, and a powerful message: when you understand your money, you reclaim your powerāand your peace.
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**DISCLAIMER:**Ā Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Thursday Sep 11, 2025
āļø Behind the 911 Call: A Dispatcherās Story of Surviving Abuse
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
Thursday Sep 11, 2025
In this powerful and anonymous conversation, āGinaā shares what itās really like to leave a narcissistāonly to discover the abuse doesnāt stop, it just changes form.
From custody battles and endless court motions to collusion between exes and the crushing failures of the system, Gina opens up about the psychological warfare of co-parenting, the Bermuda Triangle of āhelp,ā and why ājust leavingā is never as simple as people think.
As a mother, a survivor, and a 911 dispatcher, she offers a rare perspective: one that blends lived experience with frontline exposure to abuse in real time. Most importantly, she shares how she stopped chasing court wins and started modeling peace for her children.
If youāve ever felt unheard, discredited, or exhausted by the system, Ginaās story is proof that youāre not aloneāand that you can still create safety and peace, even in the chaos.
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**DISCLAIMER:** Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
š¬ From Hollywood to Healing: Lindsay Abernathy's Real-Life Fight for Survival
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
You may know her from The Walking Dead, but actress and advocate Lindsay Abernathy faced a real-life apocalypse that no script could prepare her for. In this powerful episode, Lindsay opens up about surviving years of domestic abuseāboth inside the relationship and long after it ended through relentless post-separation abuse.
Now the host of the acclaimed podcast Bitch Is a Bad Word, Lindsay uses her voice to shatter stigma and empower survivors to reclaim their stories. We dive into how she went from TV screens to trauma recovery, the psychological warfare of leaving an abuser, and what true healing actually looks like on the other side.
This conversation is raw, real, and necessary. If youāve ever felt isolated in your experience or unsure if you could survive what feels unsurvivableāLindsay is living proof that you can.
šļø Learn more about Lindsayās community on Patreon and why reclaiming the word ābitchā is part of taking your power back.
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**DISCLAIMER:** Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
š From Pain to Purpose: 10 Ways to Reclaim Your Power with Hope Rose
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
In this powerful episode, I sit down with Hope Roseāa movement born from one womanās battle through the family court system and the fire of custody struggles. Her story is one of turning deep pain into undeniable purpose.
Together, we explore 10 transformative ways you can start taking back control, even in the face of chaos. From mindset shifts to daily practices, we unpack simple but powerful tools that help you make meaningful changes and start designing a future you're proud of.
If you're ready to rise, this conversation will light the way.
Recommended Reading: (earns commissions)
Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself
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Thursday Feb 27, 2025
š„ Forged by Fire: Emily's Journey
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Thursday Feb 27, 2025
Leaving a narcissistic, addicted, and high-conflict partner isnāt just a breakupāitās a battle for survival. In this episode, I sit down with Emily, a survivor who endured a brutal divorce and custody fight against a mentally unstable and addicted ex. She shares her raw, unfiltered journey from the depths of magical thinking to the reality of fighting for her childās safety, testifying in court, and losing everythingāonly to discover true freedom on the other side.
We dive into:
š„ Breaking free from the illusion that things will get better
š„ The lowest point and how she clawed her way out
š„ The shift from victim to survivor and learning to self-advocate
š„ Fighting for custody, documenting abuse, and keeping her child safe
š„ Finding financial freedom after losing everything
š„ Rebuilding her life, career, and relationships with a new, fearless mindset
Emilyās story is one of resilience, reinvention, and ultimate victory. If youāre in the trenches of a high-conflict divorce or still tangled in a legal battle, this episode is your battle cry. You can get through thisāand come out stronger than ever.
Tune in now, and letās navigate the road to freedom together. š§āØ #OutOfCrazyTown #DivorcingANarcissist #SurvivorToThriver

Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
šAI Breakthrough: Aimee Says Empowers Survivors
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
Tuesday Dec 03, 2024
In this episode, Anne Wintemute, CEO and co-founder of Aimee Says, unveils a groundbreaking AI tool designed to revolutionize how victims and survivors of domestic abuse navigate their journeys to safety and recovery. Anne shares the powerful story behind Aimee Says and its mission to help survivors communicate effectively, document critical information, strategize for the future, and validate their experiences. Tune in to learn how this cutting-edge technology is empowering individuals to break the cycle of abuse and reclaim control over their lives. Donāt miss this inspiring and eye-opening conversation!
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**DISCLAIMER:** Ā
THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS PODCAST IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED LEGAL ADVICE OR A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GUIDANCE OF A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. EACH INDIVIDUALāS CIRCUMSTANCES ARE UNIQUE, AND ANYONE SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE SHOULD CONSULT A QUALIFIED ATTORNEY. IF YOU ARE IN NEED OF MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO A LICENSED THERAPIST OR COUNSELOR.
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